Friday, April 26, 2013

Revisiting Gundam SEED - Part 2 By Team GG Falldog

Revisiting Gundam SEED - Part 2 
Written By Team GG Falldog
Read Part 1: HERE
Intro


Welcome to part two of my four part series on Gundam SEED! My goal with this series has been to rewatch Gundam SEED for the first time since it originally aired back in 2002. It’s a rewatch with open arms and an open mind after almost a decade of seemingly universal SEED hatred within the North American Gundam community.


So far my experience has been mostly positive. There are some rough parts, not really with the characters, but the weak plot and setting. Certainly nothing to justify the vehement hate.


If this is your first time seeing a Revisiting Gundam SEED article please check out Part 1 @ http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2013/03/revisiting-gundam-seed-part-1-by-team.html



Looking Back at Part 1


Before getting to my comments on the second quarter of Gundam SEED I wanted to take a few moments to address the first part of my review, or rather, some of the comments that it garnered. .


Newtypes v. Coordinators you say? Well, that was bound to come up at some point, though I was waiting for the end of the series to see how things fleshed out. I agree, it’s nice to see both sides of the racial divide but I can’t really credit SEED for handling that too well. From what I’ve seen both sides are a bunch of children and the radical Blue Cosmos group hasn’t done much more than spill some condiments and get mentioned in passing. I prefer the slower development of a Newtype, and the mystery surrounding it, instead of the plausible yet boring coordinator origins.


Zeta Gundam has flaws? Well, yes, it’s not perfect but one can blame its issues on 80’s anime trends. SEED only has itself to blame.


To the person who commenting on the rapid development of mobile suit tech in the series, you’re absolutely right. I hadn’t realized it until you pointed it out. While the franchise’s non-UC era shows had been slowly leaving its “realistic” roots behind, SEED really took it a huge step further. Everyone except for the Earth folks pretty much start out with overly impressive mobile suits which can only (and do) develop into brighter and flashier models way too quickly.


One or two commenters mentioned that the HD remake I was watching was only one phase of Sunrise’s remake. It seems I was checking out the version which aired on TV initially and Sunrise later released a full remake with updated animation all over the place. As one source dried up I moved to a second and now, I think, I’m watching the final release. Frankly, I can’t tell whether the fully re-done animation looks better or worse. Sure, it’s cleaner and nicer looking, but the style change is just doesn’t look right...

That Hirai face...


Especially compared to something like


If only all of SEED looked this awesome


Did the change they soundtrack too? Episode 25 or 26 opened with some god-awful porno music. Apparently there’s some recons in here too, something about Nicol swinging first and Kira coming down with space herpes from Flay? I barely remember the series as it originally was, let alone if there’s a sudden surplus of walkie-talkies.


The comparison to Gundam 00 came up several times which makes sense as it was the first non-CE animated program to take to the airwaves after Gundam SEED Destiny. Let’s be real, Gundam 00 had some issues, especially in the second season. It lost all the tactical love, added superfluous hax, and drowned us in some of the worst relationships to grace the franchise. It was faaaaar from a fantastic improvement (well, maybe not to Destiny). Am I going to have to review that too?


Anyhow, back to SEED...


Part 2: Episodes 14-26


The second quarter of Gundam SEED was fairly mundane and boring. I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was bad, just boring, as I felt the entire desert arc was primarily a setup period. Lots of important things were set up though, from the introduction of Calgilli, the death of the Desert Tiger, and Fray’s decline into a full blown crazy bitch.


I was looking forward to seeing Andrew Watfel’s character, the Ramba Ral of Gundam SEED. Unfortunately I couldn’t help but be disappointed. For starters, Andrew is a rather one dimensional character. He’s almost too good of a person. He’s likable, seems to treat people fairly, and otherwise doesn’t show much in the way of negative traits. This becomes an issue when you set a character like this up against the desert rebels, another likable organization. When neither side shows any real negative qualities one realizes immediately how stupid this war is and begins lose interest in their battles once you see through the stupidity of it. Now, I get that Gundam is built around otherwise avoidable wars where each side has redeeming qualities. Yet when you remove adverse qualities viewers arrive at the “war is bad” conclusion too soon and too cleanly. This seems to be a big issue with SEED. Two sides are fighting, with very little in the way of asshole villains or acceptable cause for violence.


The Japanese must have very small coffee cups


A larger issue with Andrew Watfel’s character comes with his interaction with Kira. It’s too quick, too simple, too mundane. Kira meets Watfiel, very quickly realizes that he’s not a douche, and moves on. There’s no proceeding confrontation between the two or epic mid-battle argument about the reasons they fight. This lack of depth, lack of emotional oomph, comes into play after Watfiel’s death and Kira’s remembrances of their two encounters. It’s supposed to mean something to Kira, shape who he is, but as a viewer it just fell flat. It’s hard to appreciate Kira’s thoughts when he’s flashing back to an empty motivator.


Also, what was with his random two episode chick that looked suspiciously like Roux Louka? Talk about a throw-away.


While the desert arc spent a lot of time developing Andrew as an influence to Kira, a lot was done with the newest female member, Cagalli Yula Athha.


Cagilli was bound to return after her brief appearance in the first episode, and it’s a welcome shift. She’s surprisingly down to earth, is able to take on a lot of responsibility by herself, and is a properly flawed character. That is to say that she’s well balanced with little issues like hot-headedness and overconfidence, none of which really get in the way of the story or come off as annoying. The more I think about it the more I realize her positive impact on the series. With anyone else, that random meeting with Athrun on the uninhabited island would have been outright awful. Her presence also serves as an important counterbalance to other key female characters such as the vapid Lacus or psycho Flay.


Flay, oh how everyone loves to hate her, and it’s easy to see why. With each episode in the second quarter of SEED she becomes an amazing caricature of an awful, need, manipulative woman. She’s the only person on the entire ship who does jack shit. Instead she goes full teenage drama on everyone. Though, and I know I’m going to get a lot of hate for this, in the end it works. It’s interesting to see Kira pushed away from his friends by this blunt wedge of a woman. Maybe it’s the complete lack of subtlety which I appreciate. Either way I’m more annoyed at fans who think that she’s worthy of respect or think she has any redeeming characteristics.


How we all feel about Flay


Ship? What ship?



Most frustrating element of these past episodes is the amount of filler (for lack of a better word). Right after we’re done going through an extensive setting up phase with the desert arc we get the sea arc which is a thousand times worse. The enemy commander is just awful at what he does and is in no way interesting or memorable. Time is wasted on Strike trying to fight in the ocean while we’re treated with reused animation and some of the worst water CGI I’ve ever seen. Again, it’s all setup filler, this time for the Cagilli/Athrun island episode.



To make things worse the underwater suits used by ZAFT have to be some of the ugliest god damn things I’ve ever seen. They’re just terrible. Zero redeeming features. They can’t even effectively attack the Archangel! One can’t help wonder if the same awful designer is the one to give them their awful names. ZnO and GOOhN? What the shit.


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BuCUE’s are just as terrible. I remember, when SEED first aired, how excited I was for them. Maybe it was just the current Zoids fandom driving appreciation for four-legged mechs but seeing them in action finally was devastatingly disappointing. They’re poorly animated (terrible CGI with moments shifting to painfully contrasting & lazy-as-fuck cel animation) and completely ineffectual. Somehow they have no problem firing rockets accurately into caves but have a hard time hitting a stationary Strike.


The only decent ZAFT designed suit was this cannon fodder.


Just when you think these designs can’t get any worse they get... better? Well, for a moment at least, with the the awesome Astray. I must have ditched Gundam SEED prior to this point before because I do not recall seeing them on screen years ago. Their design, while not as refined as the MG Blue or Red Frames, is quite good. There’s even one scene, when we get a nice shot of the head, where the animation is just superb. If only SEED looked this awesome all the time.



All of this takes place in the Land of Orb, or whatever Orb’s country is called. It’s basically Anaheim Electronics on steroids. This development was easily the best part of Q2. After a completely unexpected battle against the other X units, out of nowhere comes this country. It was barely mentioned throughout the series and now it seems setup to be a big player. I’m really hoping this turns into Zaft v. Earth Federation v. Orb. It would be a welcome change to the formula (by using the Zeta formula) and might actually produce some interesting developments.


Best two characters in the whole series


Speaking of interesting developments there are a couple things dropped here and there that will probably come into play greatly later, namely Kira being a “berserker” and that he has a brother (probably Athrun). The berserker thing I get but it really doesn’t help the whole coordinator mythos. I do like how they explained the history of coordinators and that of George Glenn, though it’s pretty much impossible he did all the stuff they said he did. Pilot, college graduate at the age of 17, somehow got into professional football out of MIT and even got an a olympic medal (in football I guess?). It’ll have been a massively wasted opportunity if one of his descendants left behind at Jupiter doesn’t come back and Scirocco everyone.


Coordinators can do everything. Except shoot down this wildly undefended ship.

There were some weird references in these past few episodes, such as Glenn’s ship the Tsiolkovsky being the same as Scirocco’s Jupiteris from Zeta Gundam. Or Lacus drawing a Turn-A mustache one one of her Haros. It’s all very contrived. A bit of, “nudge nudge look what we threw in. Recognize it don’t ya?”



Despite my complaints I’m somewhat eager to see what happens next following the introduction or Orb and it’s mobile suits. It's as though they planned things knowing to put boring sections in the middle of each quarter and tie them together with some solid developments. The Freedom Gundam and another set of four antagonists have made an appearance in the new opening so it’s apparent that the mid-series change up is fast approaching. I’m quite skeptical though. So far no one they’ve introduced has been able to really be a compelling counter to Kira and their suits, as best I can tell, are ugly as shit.


Round 2 and Falldog still doesn’t hate SEED?!


P.S. - It’s worth noting that Sunrise removed the clip shows from the remaster. As such my episode count used for these reviews reflects the 48 or so episodes still remaining post-update.


P.P.S - This shot reminds me of Wing for some reason...



When not writing for Gundam Guy, Falldog the owner of OtakuRevolution.com and the author behind the Layman’s Gunpla Guide.

88 comments:

  1. The writer talked about coordinators vs newtypes? Of course newtypes will win. UC always will always be the victor when compared to other series. Especially girlie (SeeD) and gay (00) series...

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    1. Oh f*** not you again! Can you possibly write one sentence without referring to other peoples sexual preferences? If you don't like Seed just say: "I don't like Seed" and explain why in a respectful, non-condescending manner.

      Do you have to wear a hat that say "asshole" everywhere you go? jeez..

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    2. You want to know my reason? Because the series was made for girls! Heroic pretty boys everywhere while they don't even care about the story line & the characters' development... Oh, what the heck!

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    3. yeah you don't belong here just play with your gunpla kid

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    4. SEED= yaoi crap

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    5. Oh, like Heero "I wear skintight spandex shorts and a tank top and still carry a concealed pistol around" Yuy wasn't yaoi/fangirl bait? Or how about the absurdly pretty and effeminate Quatre? Then there's Duo, who's basically Quatre with fabulous braided brown hair and less effeminate in demeanor. Trowa has little personality to speak of and Wufei's a douche, but they're still prettyboys too.
      Don't get me wrong, I love Wing. But let's face it, the whole "gaggle of pretty boys in Gundams" is by no means new to Seed.

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    6. No, Wing is the true yaoi crap

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    7. Quatre's a girl (or at least voiced by one) not to mention he gets replaced by a girl in Frozen Teardrop.

      Also, his parents seem to have a lot of daughters so I wouldn't be surprised if his dad got impatient and spent a crap ton of money to change him to a boy. LOL.

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    8. so seed, wing, and 00 is all about pretty boy ? lol
      and what about AGE ? all about toddlers and preschoolers ? XD

      bandai didn't give a damn about those things, as long as it sells and give them fortune.

      even if future gundam series consist of all girls (or half-girls, lol), they'll do as long as cash flow is guaranteed.

      ┐( ̄ー ̄)┌

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    9. I know I just love the amazing stupidity of UC magic psychoframe powers.

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    10. Amuro is a bishounen (at the time)
      Char is ikkemen
      Kamile is a pretty boy with girl's name
      Judau is a pretty boy (and a crossdresser)
      Amuro and Char CCA are both ikkemen
      Usso is a shota
      Loran is the prettiest gundam pilot disguised as female with nude fanservice all over the first 2 episode. With fabulous long legged mech with butterfly wings.

      Amuro x Char fangirls are the one who kept original Gundam aired before it's popular (boys don't care about drama. They want action, like super robots back then)

      You either deal with it or kill yourself

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  2. I don't understand how you say Zeta being driven by 80s anime trends somehow exempts it from criticism when EVERY ANIME is driven by trends of the day. Seed was obviously driven by the need to appeal to women which is why they dialed up the soap opera aspects to extreme levels. Judging by the show's sales I'd say it succeeded.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not a Seed fan. I just don't think nostalgia for the past should be a valid reason to criticise something which was made with modern tastes in mind.

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    1. Agree, seed was made for girls. Normal guys should not like it. That's why I consider seed fanboys as girlie men. However the series wasn't as bad as the gay 00 though...

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    2. ^ Go away troll. It's not your place to tell what other people what they should or should not like.

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    3. i don't see how 00 is gay? i mean, i understand if some people say seed is gay (not that i agrre), but 00 really?

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    4. Ignore him. He spams every post with gay this and gay that. I don't think he has even watched the shows he complains about, he just cuts and pastes random opinions on the 'net.

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    5. Where did I say Zeta was exempt from criticism? I said that it's flaws can be directly attributed to the era in which it was created. SEED wasn't done during an era when terribly teenage drama was forced into shows or it was hip to appeal to girls.

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    6. Back on topic, Seed followed a lot of modern anime tropes. We have a much greater focus on "character-moe", fast-cutting action scenes, and shipping bait for pretty much every named character. Not that that any of this automatically makes the show bad mind you, but at times even I felt like the story lagged bit. Luckily the second half picks up the pace and was more entertaining to watch.

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    7. While things could change between now and finishing the series one of the things I had intended to get into for the final review is how Gundam SEED recycled tropes and themes from a number of Gundam series' before it. That's not a bad thing. It's just at this point SEED hasn't really expanded on them or used them to their full potential. There are a bunch of strong plays that just fell flat.

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    8. @Falldog

      I haven't had to opportunity to live in Japan so don't know what the culture likes or dislikes but it's clear to me that Seed obviously hit upon something that appealed to a new generation of teens as well as creating one of largest female Gundam fanbases.

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    9. I definitely am looking at it from a western adult prospective which I doubt was their key demo lol

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    10. Haha yeah, that's the main disconnect isn't it? Despite its exposure in the west Gundam is still a Japanese product made to appeal to Japanese people so as someone outside looking in there's a lot I don't get about why certain things are popular.

      Regarding Gundam, it seems like every show since Seed has been trying replicate its success in one way or another which is why we see a lot of elements bleeding into later shows like 00, Age and even Unicorn in some ways. Age, from what I remember in a early interview, was specifically designed to "recapture" Seed's success lol.

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  3. >rapid development in SEED is bad

    Did you forget how many designs came out of the One-Year War alone? And how long was that? Also, why is this series of articles HERE, on a news site? This sort of stuff should remain a personal blog, where I can safely ignore it, instead of having shoved it my face when I'm looking for NEWS—not opinions.

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    1. This is not a news site. Its a blog. Were you ever here before he started the GG infinite store or before Ngeekhiong stopped his blog?
      This place used to go a few days without a single new post and sometimes he'd be posting his own models that he was building.

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    2. I can't really agree with Falldog's opinions on MS development either. UC is just as guilty of this as any Gundam show. I honestly thought Seed was fairly reserved in this respect (Destiny got ridiculous though).

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    3. You must have really poor self control when stopping to read something equates to it being "shoved in your face."

      To the point though, yes, 0079 did have a lot of monster-of-the-week type mecha thrown in from Zeon but they were generally first generation prototype suits that failed. But it's not about the plethora of designs but the technical level of each. For the most part Zeon was working with second generation equipment that was relatively realistic and wasn't such a massive departure in terms of technology. As UC goes on there's the comparatively slow development from one generation to the next while supporting tech also increases. It's not perfect by any stretch but it's certainly better handled. Tech in SEED is an exercise in leap frogging.

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    4. Taken on its own the tech progression in 0079 is fine, but with every new OYW sidestory it seems like every joe schmoe feddie or zeon had some kind of secret advanced uberweapon that breaks continuity.

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    5. IMO, it can be explained in universe. After all, we have genetically enhanced geniuses running around for all 3 sides at some point, not to mention spies leaking information about breakthroughs or simply stealing them. Given that education will evolve with the skills and talents of students as well as the era itself, I think we can expect that even Naturals had advanced knowhow related to sciences and engineering.

      You can think of it as ZAFT working on N-Jammer Cancellers while trying to improve their MS on the side. ORB and OMNI were working on MS development full time. After they're successful, they exchange info making even more revolutionary upgrades or the re-introduction of certain weapons.

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    6. Aren't you guys forgetting that in seed neutron jammers are placed, restricting development of the typically nuclear powered suits. The later events of seed allow suits to have nuclear power and that's why we see a rapid development in the kind of weapons mobile suits can have available to them.

      In my mind seed seems to have developed the tech required before the series starts, but these are render useless and only come in for suits that can support them. Thus why freedom have multiple beam cannons, while aile strike has two measly beam sabers.

      BTW, I like all gundam series but seed isn't on the top my personal list.

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  4. You repeated "the whole" twice before you were talking about the coordinator mythos

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  5. I don't remember much of the previous blog but this one's still pretty good. You really hit the mark with the boring characterizations. Aside from some of the complaints mentioned here, one of the things I really disliked about SEED was the repetitive battle scenes. Its almost as if they cut and pasted the scenes because they didn't know how to progress a battle. Other Gundam shows are guilty of this, but I expected better from a "newer" release. You're also right about how the coordinators have these amazing skill yet can't destroy a single ship. Don't take too long for the next review.

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  6. The coordinator concept was pretty interesting at first but ended up as nothing but window dressing. Despite numerous mentions throughout the show about how supposedly superior they are, they suck just as much as any other natural grunt compared to Kira.

    But my biggest complaint with the show they never explain what the hell the SEED is! In most other shows like X, 00 and even Age, the newtype concept is a relevant part of the story but Seed (and Destiny) seems to have forgotten about this crucial plot point. It pretty much ends up being a 1UP mushroom for Kira and co.

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    1. You didn't watch the recap episode in the original anime didn't you? They explained it briefly but they explained it as something that they had almost no knowledge of it, kind of like how Psycho frame was explained in Unicorn

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    2. Reverend Malchio seems to know what it is but he ain't talking. The point still stands though. It never develops into anything significant in the story and is at best a power up mushroom to get the heros out of sticky situations.

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  7. I love the seed and destiny even more I dont know why all the hate
    it has its terrible moments yes but why all the hate
    seed was nice it was the first non dubbed gundam I saw , and was the first gundam I saw from start to finish , so i was a nice experience for me . while destiny was frucking touching with story and oh my god , her death made me cry like a little bitch and Shinn back story was good my only complaints that they switched the focus so fast to the original hero again but it was nice to see both sides of the coin . and the destiny gundam MS is within my top 3 gundams that all is shared with love (exia and 00q[T])

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    1. most people have a bias for their first encounter with certain things, you didnt have any other gundam series to compare to then

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  8. I think every Gundam series, well ever series, has its good or bad points. There is no such thing as "The perfect Show". Partially because everyone has different tastes. I like Gundam 00, various UC Gundam Series and other Anime because they relate to how I think in certain terms. THat is not to say that there are not things about each that I dislike. As much as I like 00 there are certain things you must over look in order to rationlize the whole situation. Sometimes if you start to really question one aspect of this, the whole thing falls apart. Personal opinion is that a show requires you to have enough things that you do like to over ride the things you dont. For me Seed and Destiny both were to full of problems with story, ms design, and mostly a lack of characters that didnt make me wish I was Hellen Keller so I wouldnt have to listen. P.S. I realize this is the internet and as long as there is a way to voice their opinions people will do it. But I will quote Mark Twain for some of you on here. "Its better to stay silent and let people think your a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all dobut."

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  9. this is stupid
    why would anyone want to waste their time even reviewing anything seed?

    it hasnt aged well and its always going suck. you should really get used to it. it seems like anyone that says anything about another series and comparing those in its defense is just in denial over it. youre all a bunch of faggots if you like it and have a shit taste. that is all

    -fuckseed

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    1. Then stop playing with faggots and fuck off nigger.

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    2. this is stupid
      why would anyone want to waste their time commenting about wasting their time reviewing anything seed?

      Yeah, and i've notice your English, must be some poor 3rd country fucks pretending to be good at the internet.
      Have you get the FREE $1,000,000 yet?

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    3. "you should really get used to it"

      -a message for yourself?

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    4. "That is All"?

      That, who ever you are, is the biggest lie you have ever made.
      We know you'd be here whenever anyone does the slightest mention of SEED

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  10. Regarding the point about Nicol swinging first, it seems you're not there yet Falldog lol. Suffice to say it makes Kira look more holy and innocent while the other guy look like a complete idiot for running face first into a... I've said too much!

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    1. Starwars all over again, except that one had an idiotic bounty hunter who can't shoot a guy right in front of him.

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    2. To be honest, in that situation, it is still an accident.
      What they both did is kind of right at the time. Nicole dashing into Kira because he wants to protect Athrun without knowing that Kira won't do anything to Athrun. (Kira had the Anti-Sword pointing at Athrun) Kira, seeing Nicole as an enemy, dashing into him with a spear, of course would protect himself from that. At this point anyone could say that Kira could just move way, but the thing is, in his position (with the sword overhead) it's hard to move the way that people wants it because they have no concept of a sword. What Kira did is the correctly way to get out from that position.
      To slowly lower it down to whatever side that's its at (right side in this case)

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    3. youre wrong
      the animation isnt changed at all from what i heard from someone else

      liar

      /fuckseed

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    4. In the original Kira is clearly shown "swinging" the sword in self-defense. But in the remastered version they make it look Kira is in complete control and is actively trying to "back away" from Nicol making him look like a blind idiot who runs right into what's in front of him.

      Yes, you could argue they were both an accident but the original felt sincere while the remaster is truly Lucas-worthy in its contrivance. And lets not forget the removal of Mu's helmet floating in space.

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    5. Go back to trolling SageSubs, @SeedSucksIt. You already made them stop subbing Seed HD halfway through the series. Besides, we already have suiton here... unless you and him are the same person.

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    6. @749~
      inb4specialedition, and how many fucking versions of seed do you need? 4?? yeah, right

      @825~
      they knew it was shit to begin with, and it didnt help that bd subtitles were already there. its not my problem they stopped. i could care less for shit. fuck yourself.

      /fuckseed

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    7. Never thought I'd say this but suiton is a saint compared to this guy. He contributes nothing to the discussion and is only here bitch and whine about how much he hates Seed. We get it, now move on before you embarrass yourself further.

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    8. ill say it again. how many versions do we need?
      some of us are tired of this shit, including myself

      /fuckseed

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    9. My dear boy, its only "some", not all. people like you dig UC, I'm fine with it, in fact i love UC with its terrific designs such as the nu gundam and the Ex-S. but the constant bashing of seed is unwanted, even if it had its severe flaws. remember, bandai, like any sensible company, will do anything to make money, and since it had been proven that seed is a money printer for them second to only UC, they will do it. plus, bandai will only take consideration for the home consumers in japan, and since seed is popular there, its the logical choice.

      grow up and take a look at reality, boy, or the community will bright-slap you to sense

      give all of us the respect we deserve for liking anything gundam, whether seed or not. its what this hobby really need right now.

      as of now, your argument is invalid, SeedSucksit, until you change yourself for the good.

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    10. you actually dont deserve any respect
      since your only just a seedfag

      and seedfags have no souls

      /fuckseed

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  11. Falldog?
    more like Faildog for reviewing seed

    /fuckseed

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    1. Oh harharhar very funny loser. What are you, 8?

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    2. Falldog, Faildog. Get it? Its supposed to funny herp derp.

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    3. That was uncalled for. Not cool.

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    4. uncalled for?
      anyone that has any association with seed is a big shithead cocksucker in my book

      /fuckseed

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    5. In that case get the fuck off this blog. You clearly belong in 4chan.

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    6. Nigger, you by far are the most associated with seed around, seeing that it's in your name and all your posts. How fuckin gay nigger.

      /FuckSeedSucksItNiggerCoonAsshole

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    7. thats right
      SeedSucksIt indeed

      Word nigger

      /fuckseed

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    8. Who you calling a nigger, nigger? Lay off the crack you filthy coon.

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    9. well id surely rather be a nigger than a seedfag

      /fuckseed

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    10. Nigger you are grimy. Even seedfags have more class. Even furryfags have more class.

      /FuckThisSeedSuckingNiggerFaggette

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    11. nope, youre mistaken again
      niggers and furfags most definitely have more class than seedfags

      /fuckseed

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    12. Unfortunately the seedfags are still a billion time classier than you Mr. Seedsuckinggorilladicknigger.

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    13. no, they arent

      /fuckseed

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    14. Whatever, nigger. Say it enough and you might just start believing it.

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    15. well, i bet the kkk wouldn't like a seedfag neither
      just saying, nigger hating piney

      /fuckseed

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  12. so much arguments........
    can't we all just ignore the comments we don't like...... ?
    so what if someone hates seed / 00 / uc whatever....... just ignore them....
    like what you like, ignore others who don't agree with you, no need to argue. easy.

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    1. but i wanna nail assram to the fucking cross, along with seed

      -fuckseed

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    2. I want to nail your testicles the cross. Do us all a favour and piss off loser.

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    3. im just doing god's work

      /fuckseed

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    4. Right, A Spiritual being Went from " Do Supernatural Stuff in My Name" to "Bash a 9 year old Anime Series in the rudest means possible". Seems Legit.

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  13. Seriously, am I the only one who reads this reviews for the catfight comments?

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    1. No. I do the same thing with every ranger that mentions seed

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    2. Oh my! We have racial slurs, sexual slurs and religious slurs all in the one post. That's gotta be some kind of record for gg!

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    3. How quickly people forget the first rule of trolling lol

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    4. its time to review something other than shit seed

      /fuckseed

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  14. I would like to say that at this point in the original run Waltfield was confirmed DEAD by Fukuda. Even the in-show characters mention it.

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  15. Everybody has their own personality.. so its their taste. You can't force your taste into someone else. It is a type like you who made this world full of conflict. Realize that not everyone like you. Respect another, we have the same common in one brotherhood, a GUNDAM itself. No need to fight each other

    Peace Among the Gundam Fans

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    1. i dont have to respect you or anyone else that likes seed
      im going to act like you have cancer and stay the fuck away from you

      /fuckseed

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    2. Yet you keep coming back, nigger. Your body must be polluted with STDs: seedually transmitted diseases.

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    3. "i dont have to respect you or anyone else"

      Wow. Just wow..

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  16. For me, look like in the last decade, the best thing Sunrise had made is Code Geass, not any Gundam series.

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  17. On the P.P.S. does look oddly like Heero Probably an other homage.

    I don't want spoil anything so I wont. But I do love me some SEED, rewatching for a 3rd time and still get excited and worked up even. The factions are all terribly interesting to me, and the coordinators vs naturals while 'newtyps' takes a backseat was not only welcome imb but I think helps to make SEED it's own entity and not just a parallel to the UC.

    The SEED thing (berserker) gets mentioned a few times even up through Destiny. while staying quite vague I think it was something that was supposed to be further uncovred as the series progressed. With these HD remasters it probable we'll get something in the future, whether it be the mia movie or even more.

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