1/100 Gundam Barbatos (Release Date: Nov 2015, Price: 2700 yen)
Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans [G-Tekketsu] Gunpla
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Is it a Master Grade? I mean, the HG had the HG1/144 on it in the announcement, why not this? it just says 1/100
ReplyDeleteI know the Inner Frame is a slight edge to that, but it looks so simple. I hope it come with the huge Mace though. XD
This is a NG 1/100 kit, and features an inner frame.
DeleteAs far as I can tell, there is no mace. It may be in a later, separate release.
DeleteSo what they've announced a MG Barbatos before an MG G-Self?
ReplyDeleteIt is a NG not MG
Delete1/100 with inner frame but not an MG? or is it
ReplyDeleteNope first grade not master grade that's why it is cheaper and looks a little less detailed
DeleteMore accurately it's non-grade, not first grade.
DeleteThere's already a Gundam Barbatos,this is gonna confuse some people, lol.
ReplyDeleteNo there's not. It isn't considered a Gundam. Nor is the Barbatos Mirage.
Delete1/100? Master Grade or what?
ReplyDeleteBased off of the price point I would bet it is a HG. If it was a MG the price would double.
DeleteA 1/100 HG? Haven't seen those in a while. I'm a MG collector so I'll definitely hope and wait for a MG kit of the Gundam Barbatos. In the meantime, the 1/144 HG will do, and maybe this.
DeleteNo it's a first grade when a new show is announced Bandai makes a fg kit just to meet demands that's why it's cheaper and less detailed
DeleteIt's more of a Non-Grade than FG...nothing says FG,MG,HG..
Deletebut a Non-Grade with inner frame???????????????
not a first grade its a no grade
DeleteIt is a NG not FG
Deletenon grade. first grade is the simplistic 1/144 scale with few parts and colors
DeleteBeautiful kit! But if this is their next MG after Amazing Red Warrior, then where's the MG G-Self and Build Burning Gundam? At least we should get one of those two before this gets released. (Words coming from a guy who likes HG kits)
ReplyDeleteSorry man not a mg but a fg it's main goal is just to meet demands quickly that's why it's cheaper and less detailed
DeleteIt is a NG not FG
DeleteAh, okay. The inner frame made me think that it's an MG. Of course, it's the first non-MG that featured an inner frame that's why I thought that it's an MG (correct me if I'm wrong).
DeleteBandai, please. My penis can only get so erect.
ReplyDeleteLOL..
Delete1/100 HG?
ReplyDeleteCorrect me if i am wrong, a kit is called MG because it has inner frame and 1:100 scale. This one has inner frame and 1:100, but the price is too cheap for a MG these days, also no MG on its name. Regardless, I will still buy this one (unless there will be an announcement for MG Gundam Barbatos)
ReplyDeleteThat was what im thinking too. the reason mg is got a inner frame, but if it doesnt have inner frame that is call non grade/ re 100 model, so waiting for new anouncement right now for sure, when i saw this i was suprise, how mg so ceap, but then i saw there was no mg logo, so yeah thinking and waiting
DeleteEarlier master grades didn't have full inner frames - I believe this is just a new no grade 1/100 line to go with the upgrading gimmick of the Gundam Barbatos - while I think it's really neat - I will just be waiting for a master grade which will probably be announced some time after the series is over
Deletewrong. a kit is called MG because its MG, thats the only criteria
DeleteMG stands for MASTER GRADE. And Master Grades needs a requirement.
DeleteThe Master Grade line has been more about details and articulation. The early MGs had way more detail compared to their 1/144 equivalents (as these were originally PG innovations brought down to 1/100 size), the addition of the inner frame along the line was done in service of adding more detail and articulation.
DeleteIt is inevitable that as time passed, we're seeing stuff like articulate inner frames propagate to essentially what we now term as High Grade (both the 1/144 and 1/100 Gundam Barbatos have inner frames), though compared to the contemporary Master Grade, that's still not enough detail and articulation.
please please please!!! let this be a Master grade!!!
ReplyDeleteif this is an NG 1/100 i cant imagine what it will be like if there's an MG version of this kit.
ReplyDeleteIt looks to me like this is actually a new 1/100 "No Grade" kit. I mean sure there is an inner frame and it is 1/100 in scale, but it looks to me like something we see with the Frame Arms line where we have a common frame for all/many mechs with just changes to armor.
ReplyDeleteAnd wasn't the point of Barbatos Gundam to be an incomplete mech that adds parts and weapons from defeated enemies?
In that regard, maybe there isn't going to be a Master Grade kit per say. And instead just these updated 1/100 No Grade kits? I mean for all we know, we could get armor packs to reflect the major evolutions of Barbatos.
I mean if this 1/100 (i.e. non Master Grade) kit looks this good, I'm not really sure if a Master Grade would necessarily be much of an improvement.
That might explain why the price is low at 2700 Yen.
That's what I'm thinking too. Basically I think this is like a 1/100 gimmick line, with armor packs, weapons and other mobile suits with the same frame being released later to make upgrades from the show and customs. It's a great idea, especially as the price seems lower than MGs. There might be a Mg with greater details, more complexity and better articulation coming later. I really hope they release a Glaze(?) in this line.
DeleteI think this could be a unique idea, I'll definitely keep watching this
DeleteLooks like a HG. Plus the price is way to cheap to be an MG.
ReplyDeleteI smell something fishy here, its said it used the same frame like other suit in this seriers but getting stronger as it upgrade the armor,and weapon etc. I see more armor parts coming, and don't forget the weapon parts as we can see in HG. Well done bandai, so this is how you sell the kits now.
ReplyDeleteIt's a gunpla with dlc's. Well played bandai, well played. They knew the HG Barbatos is selling like hot cakes, and they release this just to get more money. But I don't care, as long they shell some money to sunrise to maintain/improve the anime quality, then i wouldn't mind.
DeleteAre all the above commenters new to gunpla? They used to release 1/100 scale "no grade" kits all the time, it's only recently we haven't seen them. They're basically slightly bigger and better HGs.
ReplyDeleteAnd this is what caught me by surprise, we all know (and correct me if I'm wrong) that the RE/100 line is the new replacement and successor to the 1/100 No Grade line. This guy has no MG nor a RE/100 Logo on him. Plus even if it is a No Grade then it wouldn't have an inner frame since No Grades are 'basically slightly bigger and better HGs."
DeleteExcept for SEED,they were the same on HG 1/144 and NG 1/100,at least the Buster
DeleteBandai are trying frame arms route maybe. It's 1/100 too, have frame but less detail on frame, and (maybe) interchangeable armor parts.
DeleteI never saw the RE line as a replacement for anything. It was basically a way to release cheaper plastic versions of older resin kits of obscure MS. This way fans of the designs get a large kit while Bandai minimizes the risk of spending lots of time and money in developing a MG kit of a design that many people might not like.
DeleteI'm familiar with the no-grade 1/100 kits, it's just that this guy had an inner frame. Because in my world, any Gundam kit that has an inner frame = Master Grade. This kit is about to prove me wrong.
DeleteStill could've made an RE then.
DeleteWithout weapon? Bandai?! Or should I say, Bandai Namco Group?!?!
ReplyDeleteBandai Namco only makes games and probably co-works on series,that's it.
DeleteI am already loving this series just for the price point!
ReplyDeleteFirst I want to make sure that this thing doesn't come like frame arms then I'll buy it
ReplyDeleteAs impressive as this guy looks, the fact that it is so cheap and more than likely just a 1/100 No Grade detracts me from actually considering to purchase this. I think if I were to get into this line of GunPla, I would just wait for the Master Grade.
ReplyDeleteThough this gets me wondering if we're going to get MGs for this series and how much more they could do for it compared to this 1/100 No Grade....
I mean aside from making the inner frame that this model has a bit more detailed with clear parts, more articulation, and of course an opening cockpit with a pilot figure inside...I dunno. Oh and I suppose MG hands too...
I get the feeling that we're going to get this base model as a Master Grade and then get add on packs released for this guy instead.
Damn it. I can already see myself getting like multiples of this kit... >_<
Damn you Bandai for making GunPla so "fun to build" (i.e. more like fun to buy...lol)
When i see some of the picture, the barbatos use likely HG finger, but on the other picture, the fingers have a nice detailed and bends too
Deletewell, we already know that 1/100 non grade scale line was pretty much dead since SEED non grade line, then BAM!
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RE/100 arrived with obscure mobile suit from UC timeline (which i like all of 'em, btw)
in this 1/100, i see Bandai trying to make 1/100 nongrade G-TEKKETSU series which would be like SEED nongrade line, with cheaper massproduced plastic used on RE/100 or years ago. that would explain why the price in this line could be so cheap.
still, 1/100 nongrade with MG-like inner frame also slightly more expensive price from recent HG series...?
Bandai, milk my wallet 'till it dry up....
Like you actually build models, since i assume most of your items in your bullshit wishlist barely happen
Delete@gundamn: Well, technically Seed isn't the last lineup to feature 1/100 non grade. The 00 series have all the main characters (the protagonists side) as 1/100 scale non grade too, so there's that.
DeleteI think the innerframe is detailed, but. The detail one is on the back frame, look closely to the back side photo, i think bandai is have an oppinion of "why do we have to detailed the innerframe behind the armor?though, It will hide when weattach the armor"
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna buy n mod its feet. Looks like barefooted, gonna give it shoes to wear.hahaha
ReplyDeleteI see why it isn't an mg. A lot of parts are not colored. Those yellow vents on the shoulder armor would probably look ugly with stickers.
ReplyDeleteEdit: I just realized that the photos were reversed between the 1/100 and 1/144. I take back what I said (about parts not being colored).
ReplyDeleteI wonder why it's not considered an MG, at least for now
ReplyDelete:Looking at this makes me more and more interested in the anime, but in regards to kits, I think I am going to hold off and wait for an eventual Master Grade release; that is unless this 1/100 is the best we're gonna get.
ReplyDeleteI thought you hate Gundam series which mecha designs break the status quo.
Delete1/100 scale with inner frame but at a fraction of the cost of a MG? Sign me up.
ReplyDeleteSeriously? Full frame but still not MG? So I guess Bandai maybe removing the HG build from 1/100 models from now on. Only MG type for 1/100 and leave the HG to 1/144 only.
ReplyDeleteThis is possibly the ugliest piece of crap "gundam" ever designed...this thing is downright hideous....like come on bandai wtf, did they have their 3rd string design team cook up this garbage? Let's just stick to the gundam gods katoki or kunio please...
ReplyDeleteI'd say its refreshing over the usual 'super robot' okawara and the 'squarish' design of katoki. The design of Barbatos evokes the idea of primitive and savage; when was the last time you see an MS with a conventional huge-ass Mace as its starting weapon?
Deletethe Strike is a tactical MS hence daggers (later has aile pack so its moot), and the Astray Red's Gerbera Straight is just pretentious in the world of beam sabers and lasers. I'm stoked to see how far the series gonna make barbatos using primitive weapons as its main armament.
well, we already know that 1/100 non grade scale line was pretty much dead since SEED non grade line, then BAM!
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RE/100 arrived with obscure mobile suit from UC timeline (which i like all of 'em, btw)
in this 1/100, i see Bandai trying to make 1/100 nongrade G-TEKKETSU series which would be like SEED nongrade line, with cheaper massproduced plastic used on RE/100 or years ago. that would explain why the price in this line could be so cheap.
still, 1/100 nongrade with MG-like inner frame also slightly more expensive price from recent HG series...?
Bandai, milk my wallet 'till it dry up....
people keep says its FG or HG, no its not, its NG.
ReplyDeleteeven this have inner frame but MG inner frame has more detail such knee joint mechanism, and all MG have knee joints mechanism.
from this link the product barbatos release in HG and NG for now
ReplyDeletehttp://bandai-hobby.net/tekketsu/gunpla.html
People keep mentioning this is "very cheap" and one of the reasons this is a NG over a MG. Do you guys have hugely marked up prices from imports where you get your kits from ? Granted I live in Tokyo and don't need to import and I just bought MG Double X for 2800 yen last week (100 yen more than this NG Barbatos) which is a recent MG kit (April 2015) and there's many other kits this price. Even hi-nu Gundam ver ka MG is just 3200 yen which isn't that big a leap from this (only 5 bucks) ... there's quite a few RG's that despite being 1/144 are easily 2200-2700 .. maybe because of the increased number of indiviual plastic parts and huge amount of decals.
ReplyDeleteWow the box art is looks clasic. And yeah brand new line for iron blood orpan series only. Now it is like fusion of mg+ng.
ReplyDeleteMg because it have simple inner frame
Ng because it same as hg but in 1/100 scale
and cheap price point ( and less color, because some area need to paint )
So we call it now CGS ( Clasicc Grade Series )
yeah you know because it looks clasicc, same as in the tv. So how about this? Share your thought to me...
Bruh you butchered the word "classic" twice.
DeleteI hope it's still too early to say, but this not-an-MG-but-an-NG will not include the Mace? Because the latest images doesn't show it.
ReplyDeleteI think we will see a PG grade in the future
ReplyDeleteCertainly hope that the Mace will not come as part of a P-Bandai Additional weapons system for the Barbatos.
ReplyDelete@Jackz, it won't include the mace. it may be offered as an option part with one of the hobby magazines hopefully or if bandai goes the hg way of selling option parts but 1/100.
ReplyDeleteDaym... too bad. It would've been cool if it would come with the mace. I guess I'm asking too much.
Deletethe torso area looks skinny/slim compared to the HG proportions. it's like the chest and shoulders are scrunched up and aligns with the hip width... i haven't jumped on the HG 1/144 because i want the 1/100 for the size and inner frame details but i'm waiting for actual reviews and more photos for the 1/100 proportions. so far i'm not liking the 1/100 proportions, based on what i'm seeing. the HG 1/144 overall propportion looks better. and there's no mace!!! >.<
ReplyDeletePetty cool that both the HG and NG have inner frames. Looks like Bandai is going with the same route as Build Fighters and will release weapon, armor sets for these kits. I'll wait for a MG. Imagine how awesome the inner frame would be on that thing?!
ReplyDeleteThis looks nice for those who want a 1/100 scale of the Barbatos without the usual Master Grade price.
ReplyDeleteBut I honestly don't find this kit to be worth it at all.
I think it's likely that we will see a Master Grade of the Barbatos.
Considering that the HG and this 1/100 No Grade has an inner frame (albeit not a complete one), Bandai could and should release a Master Grade with proper color separation, clear parts, etc.
Even if that means we will get the other variations and weapons via add on packs like how they've been handling the HG line.
On top of that, this 1/100 does not have the mace weapon?
That is basically the signature weapon of the Barbatos is it not? Why do they include a katana and a bazooka with this? Makes no sense. If anything it should at least come with the mace and that's it; making an option set for the bazooka, katana, etc.
stop arguing! first look this is NG even if it has an inner frame
ReplyDelete*sigh* c'mon you guys? Go google and search? Yes it is look like MG but not detailed enough...looks like hg, actually this one bandai specialized made for the iron blooded orphan only...it stand in the middle between hg and mg. Yes of course most people thought it was mg because of it scale 1/100...just because the scale doesnt mean it MG? If u guys still asking about the grade? It is non graded...just iron blooded orphan scale 1/100...quality is better than HG but not good as MG.
ReplyDeleteYeaahh... its no grade... damn good no grade....
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